I request any feedback from anyone who might have heard of them or had an experience. I 00:14:19 I think I may have just ordered some fake Callaway X-22 irons. Their prices are incredible. scratching), but I really dont care about appearance I want function! Select Flex: Regular You can also try the magnet test on your driver to see if it will stick. : I advised him to credit my PayPal account immediately and he did. Im planning to try and call that NYC number on Monday. Congratulations to owning up to your moment of stupidity but more importantly this is yet another perfect example to all of us of the corruption that abounds with golf clubs and the world wide web. I would steer clean of them Joel. Hi Guys $310/club. Discount for Shenzen residents. They seem to offer a pretty good deals. Anyone hear of wowgolfclubs. What should I look for, how can I find out if these are counterfeit assembly parts? Are overstock clubs real are just another fake product? if someone can also advise on duty etc that might be charged apart from what i pay, it will be a huge help. Province: Zhejiang 2nd Swing is actually now an authorized US Miura dealer/distributor so you can bet theres no funny stuff with them. I have little pity for the golf companies. Super street Mizuno asked if they could keep them to pursue legal action against the companies in the US and China that the clubs came from, but I have not heard from Mizuno at all. Unfortunately, the increase in golf's popularity has pushed counterfeiters to make more fake club heads, shafts, grips, golf balls, bags and headcovers. > yeah sorry wondering if mine are legit now . I did, however, purchase a Ping G15 Driver from Golfwholesale18.com after I demoed it a few times at the range and it looks, feels and performs the same. PS This is a great forum. http://www.golfonlinedeal.com/392-Ping-Rapture-V2-Irons.html, http://www.bestwebshop.co.uk/ping-rapture-v2-irons-p-244:84f72ca761dab049f016fe8313551b65.html, http://www.gfseller.com/Ping-Rapture-V2-Green-DotIrons-3-9PS-1146.html. The finish on this one is clearly different, and you can see the lines from the milling which do not appear on a genuine version. A few years ago we bought a Canon camera from a website and googled it afterwards and found there were a lot of complaints about the products and dealing with the seller. It seemed to hit ok, but was very heavy. Thanks for your visiting progolfstore.co.uk. The 8 iron has the serial number, and also did the magnet test. I'm trying to figure out how to look for any telltale clues on K Grinds, which don't come up on 2nd Swing. Heres an example of a golf store that sold many products & operated out of the United States (shipped straight from the factory HAHAHA). I also read quite a few good reviews about the company. OK so a follow up on Diamond Tour Golf which makes Clones NOT imitations or fakes. Im not looking for tour quality clubs at rock-bottom prices, Im looking for a quality product that will improve my game to make it more funand I dont want to pay more than I have to, because what I save can go towards green-fees to go hit them. You will receive fake products Looking mainly at K Grind stuff now and higher lofts, since 2ndSwing only has 53 and below now. They advertised the clubs as used but the only club that showed any mark was the 7 iron. Does anybody know anything about BHMgolf.com? I read all on this post as I knew everyone can lead to scam if they order cheap price from strange name business. By the way, the dealer called TaylorMade and gave them the serial number. Baskil, March 30, 2017 in Japanese and Non-US. Seem to have great prices on Ping irons, good feedback. I am wondering about the authenticity of the website http://golfwholesaleshop.com/ are they genuine. Free shipping threw out the world; discount for Shenzhen resident; send your money now. My daughter bid a set of X24 Callaway graphite from Empire Golf through bidding as a Xmas gift to me. As someone else posted above, if all consumers would do their homework wed eliminate this problem through supply and demand. : What it needs is a listing of wht GolfSpy says are websites for obtaining legitimate used clubs. When I called I just got a message saying the subscriber you are trying to reach. : if you are not satisfied with the quality, we can give you a full refund under the condition that the product is perfectly good and you ship it back by yourself. OP was probably just a pissed off local retailer wishing he had $17 million dollars in annual revenue. not to mention these companies would still make plenty of money using american (safe, sanitary, secure) labor. I will try and post some pics, just figured I would finally post this up with a few more listings from different sellers coming out within the day. Anyway this is not going away soon, and my message is to do your research before buying. Anyhoot, since Ive seen yours and a few other sites I now see a lot of red flags. I get sale flyers from reputable dealers like TGW & Edwin Watts, etc. One company gave them an 81 percent safe rating. Thats when I started researching fake sites. Scammers. I also should have been cautious that they had as many as I wanted with any variation I wanted at the same price. our price is reasonable enough Has anyone ever dealt with a website called: I am very skeptical on this website as the written English looks terrible and there is no sign of their registration with UK companies house on the register. I could not see any appreciable difference in the distance over my ancient Callaway Great Big Bertha fairway woods. they promote a Studio select Newport and its aphoto of the studio style and no way they can sell a scotty at 209.99 new when they cant sell it under 299.99 everywhere else. plz help!!!!! I contacted my credit card company and explained what happened. On Scotty Cameron putters it is located on the shaft up near the grip usually between the bottom of the grip and the top of the shaft band. all above made in china seen all the emotions when i pointed out that they were fakes too their proud new owners = if it sounds too good a buy then it always is.. Hi, Im looking to buy new clubs in this sites: https://www.golfonline.co.uk/login.php Im just wondering whether it is legit or not, Where does Rockbottomgolf.com get its golf clubs from? MacGregor. Bill Email: Good detective work! Snowy regards from Switzerland. It doesnt make sense to me. They have everything made in China because its cheap!! I ordered the Taylormade R9TP irons and was contacted within a few hours by my CC company asking if I had purchased any electronic equipment from Toyontech.com. At present I have asked them to return my payment and have raised a dispute with Paypal. They arrive tomorrow and I just hope my quest for a deal has not gotten the best of me. What a great forum. Phone number in HK is non existing no such no. Do not buy anything. Ive found some cleveland cg7 irons 5-pw on onlinegolf.com for 179.99. Many people are trying to sell back their counterfeit purchases back to ebay at market prices. This is simply the Golf retail industry trying to protect their markets,albeit with some dubious claims,but business is business and alls fair in a dog eat dog business,:)). Obviously that is a tall goal, and we are not perfect, but I dare say there is only a very very small minority is unhappy at the end of the day. The club numbers seem to have a different font, and even the Miura logo seems to have thinner lines and a taller font. The prices were in the too good to be true range, but I can tell you that I had them all checked out and am 99.999% sure they are the real deal, as was the pro that looked at them. I never heard of overstock clubs being sold. cpeck Advanced Members 641 Feedback 2 0 0 Total Rating 100% Posted May 19, 2019 Good luck. My only concern is that some of the clubs are stamped with the GENUINE on the neck, and some of them are not. Is the price the same steel or graphite? The Titleist Miura Forged Replica irons released in 1998. I am sure I have seen a website very similar to this one under a different name but as one closes down another starts up because suckers like yourself think they are getting a bargain. Ever heard of a website called topgolfmall.com; gosh, I wish Id read these comments before I ordered from these guys! IGOLFYOO, GOLFSMARTDEAL, GOLFMARTDISCOUNT offer very poorly made taylormade fakes (sold a legit). I ask abut the low prices, why that is, they said they buy directly from manufacturer and post to customer as a gift. Miura is known for world class forgings. But dont buy a fake Calloway just to pose. PayPal and Ebay provide no protection at all if you deal with these sellers, be fully aware of that!!! I paid less that $100 US which was quite a deal. MATERIAL Premium (S20C) Soft Carbon Steel FINISH Satin Chrome SPECIFICATIONS Terrible english etc. Either buy the knockoffs/clones for very cheap, or the store brand like Lynx from Golfsmith, or if youre really a 5 HCP you can spend $800+ on a set. compared to the vokeys i have been hitting. I hit them and feel seems authentic, but I am not an expert. I now own 2 TaylorMade R9 farway woods for $68.50 that are almost identical to the authenic clubs, but I am still trying to shut the seller down. And this is something the reps probably dont want to talk about. Does anyone know any ways to dispute the payments? Just wanting to make sure. Even the torque wrench was a phonysince it didnt have a torque setting. We are one of the best UK golf clubs retailers and we have been supplying cheap golf equipment online for years. In looking at the photos on the Chinese sites, nothing jumps out at me as obvious signs of being fake. Anyone else heard or know anything about the website? I searched on the internet and found Callaway Razr Fit driver for $199. due to parenthood. Thomas Rath that is not my problem,just your thought So if it doesnt have an American serial number, that doesnt make it fake. According to to him, he guarantees his stuff to be authentic but now after reading all these posts im starting to worry that these clubs are fake. Past 20 years, I have see so many different golf clubs and some of them were fake last five years ago. . I prefer not to use his name. And despite traditional sounding names to America, their spelling and grammar seems like it might be someone whose primary language is not English but is writing in English, kind of like those spam emails you get telling you that you inherited a million dollars, so just contact Honorable Barrister Jonathon Dawes or whomever. Very quick (free!) However, it offers discounts for retailers that sell higher volumes. ROCHESTER, N.Y.(BUSINESS WIRE)RockBottomGolf.com, a top internet golf retailer, announced today that the company has been named by Entrepreneur Magazine as one of Americas fastest growing companies in their annual Hot 500 list published in their August 2007 issue. This has to be the biggest give away for a fake club. Miura Passing Point NEO Genesis 9005-G iron heads - .355 - RH. The way I look at it now If I cant afford Retail prices I cant afford the Clubs. Its called being an accessory to the crime. but if you dont have anything lefty, they are fake, Nicole 20:26:08 authentic gear at bargain prices. Miura Golf Clubs: Japanese Forged Irons, Wedges and Putters Miura is, so to speak, the epitome of Japanese blacksmithing. They both have superb customer service for component companies and have been around since the mid 90s. Reading their About Us section you can tell from the english that it is not their first language. They do not have any address on their website showning their physical location ? City : Kettering Remember golf club manufacturers spends millions of dollars developing and researching their products to make what in the end is a precision instrument. Please rest assured to purchase from us. Country : us Go look right now. Province: Fujian Higgins, Russell Fairhaven, MA 02719 Any input would be greatly appreciated thank you! Domain Name : golfleading.com I bought TM R11 from Rockbottomgolf.com;do you think its real. Alan, I was looking at some Callaway X-20 irons on Ebay from golfetail.com. The shaft looked authentic but it was 65 gms. Hi as anyone dealt with wholesalegolfcheap.com, I have tried contacting them but they a very vague and dont answer my question about there adress or phone number? They have uk contact details and say they are authorised distributors. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Contest runs from May 18th June 1st Maximum of 5 entires allowed 1 allowed per day The Contest Has Officially Begun! Has anybody ever bought anything off of worldgolfsupplies on ebay? This is a major concern since the JPX series irons did not come out until September of 2010. The serial number is much larger on the counterfeit. I hope none were golf clubs of any of the previously mentioned brands. please help. Im not sure what all that means but I have sent them an email with a demanded response within 24 hours. There's a good chance that fake miuras are sold on ebay/aliexpress/dhgate that have no visually discernible difference from legit ones. Has anyone come across http://www.golffactorystore.com ? That may happen for some of the lesser brands of clubs but I am sure the more ethical manufacturers such as Titleist or Ping would not allow anything of the sort. I would advise you to go into the Paypal full claim system urgently and make a total rejection of the clubs and not to debate any sort of use. thanks. I was looking at buying some titleist ap2 irons from this website, but like everyone else, am questioning the sites authenticity. gu shan qu They seem to have large supply and positive feedback. We at fakegolfclubs.com think you are taking the urine out of us. Long story shortened, I declined the CC charge but GWS shipped anywayI refused delivery of the clubs. Not to mention the care in packaging. any new golf club with a smell likje a rubber tire are actually fake golf clubs..anyone who sells a lot of clubs anddd it not a retailer, they cant buy clubs that cheap form an autherized company. jarediogolf Does anyone have experience with dealing with them? Thank you. Notice how the weights dont line up perfectly with the bottom of the sole. I repeat; YOU CANNOT BUY GOLF CLUBS STRAIGHT FROM THE FACTORY., IF THE GOLF CLUBS ARE FROM CHINA, THEY ARE FAKE!!!. I 00:18:39 I believed $100.00 under retail was possible and they use paypal. something,and golfonline always offer som I went with a purchase from Rock Bottom which you mentioned were more credible. thanks for the tips and help. It is 20 minutes from my house and located at a golf resort. Awesome job! Usually, when a website has other affiliate websites (usgolfsale.com & golfsales365) this puts up a red-flag, immediately! thanks for your assistance, I will check out these sites that you mentioned. Counterfeit Titleist AP2 712 Iron Set. Clue three: Prices are unbelievable. First off I just want to thank u for this blogit has really opened my eyes to this world of fake clubs. Total difference in performance. Go to your local retailers, get a feel of the clubs and be assured you are getting the genuine article. A legitimate seller of OEM clubs? My friend really upset and cant afford with new set what he look for. thank , you answer my question, i wont recommend your store to anybody, SEE THEIR ANSWER FOR THE 20:22:43 question, 7seconds to write all off this, sound like they have a prepare response for accusation. They show operaters on line but you NEVER get to talk to any one. As you see, because China people didnt set up the corrrect swingweight as they want your money! This scares meon the shipping info page Return and partial refund But the looks were spot on. Thanks for the response Mygolfspy. I cant tell particular differences between the club and the factory pictures. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! They sent me some clubs which smelt bad, rubberish and the print on the shaft really gave it away. I saw a deal for a Titleist 910 D2 Driver for 269.99 at golfonlinewholesale.com. I purchased a set of FT-ibrids from him and am wondering after reading on hear if they are authentic. : the site is http://www.discountgolfwholesale.com, I also tried to deal with timtheputterman, He sells sets so cheap that they have to be copies. @Jason, yes, second swing has a store here in Minneapolis that I go to and buy clubs from..they are legit. Does anyone know if this site is legit or should I stay away from it? [emailprotected] Here I come! Any info would be greatly appreciated. Both sites sell cheapest golf cubs in da world and amongst cheapest in Shenzhen; send your money now. I recently made an enquiry on http://www.aliexpress.com regarding the Taylor Made R11 driver, i was assured that the product was original and no mention of OEM or anything like that, the price was alot cheaper than shops ect but more than most on ebay, so i thought i would be getting a bargain, and even cheaper if i bought more than one, so i thought that if i listed one of these on ebay, i could order 2 (one for me and one for whoever bought from me on ebay) and get it cheaper!! Gianni Magliocco. The edges and lines of the club are much softer/rounder than the one on the picture. Most of the American brands are made in China. These guys are a complete rip off so dont touch them with a pole. No worries. Does anyone know if Ebay seller yo*bo (YoBo Sports & Golf ) is legit or not? I would want to see the numbering on the bottom, picture of writing on hosel, and a clear close of the back of the irons. United States, Domain Name: MYSURBUY.COM Bad for us in the long run. [emailprotected] Paste as plain text instead, I cant put with my real Odyssey, and dont want to shell out 180 on the real thing. Customer Service 13:44:52 The clubs are OEM products, the same quality as the origials. Thanks for the post, it helped me from losing $500!!! After reading all the comments above Im paranoid about buying a set online that I saw. I was a dummy and bid way too much for a cobra hybrid on ebay through a golfetail listing. Anyone dealt with buycheapgolf.com? knows the answer can you kindly respond? Did you ever get an answer? While Im at it, I had also secured a Diamond Tour 56 degree Inazone DT15 wedge which is working tremendously well. Top of the page in the center is a McAfee security symbol. Dont be an idiot. golfwholesaleseller.com told me that they use oem products. > I understand that the ones on 2ndSwing are generally accepted to be authentic. I sent the clubs to Mizuno in Atlanta to have them checked. Or go to WalMart. They didnt try to hide the fact that they are in China. Kinda like hitting yardstick against the table. DONT DO IT! I replied thanking them for pointing this out to me and ended the listing ammediately!! Once you see it up against a legit driver, you know youve been fooled. You can find discounts from geniune online companies. Is it safe to buy an ironset from them (New Adams Idea Black CB2 irons 6-PW+AW $299.99). Miura's newest irons are designed for mid- to high-handicap golfers. Thankyou all. Fake clubs from China ChongQing I am now having dispute with them or over charging me 5Xluckily i check my bank for amount transacted and now waiting for them to cancel or face dispute. So they sold through the gray market. I checked with the reviews and too many people talked about bad things some of them already pay and have never get a golf set. I have emailed them and they said this All clubs are original with serial numbers.Two reasons contribute to the competitive price. Bill Street2: This is a comprehensive set of clone golf clubs that offers everything a high handicapper needs to succeed on the golf course. China yanghua li To the untrained eye, the counterfeit driver (left) is not immediately apparent; the main giveaways are that the yellow paint is not quite the correct shade and the casting of the raised triangular shards within the yellow section are not as crisp and proud as the genuine article. What does anybody know about wholesalegolfmart? None of the counterfeit web sites that I have looked at offer left-handed clubs, no. Verry cheeep, Did you get any feedback on this? It wasnt drastically cheaper than retail, but substantial. AGREE with the above. And the lure of us wanting something for next to nothing, ie. All of these discount golf websites are PHONEY, FAKE, SCAMS ect ect. I consider these to be authentic. I was talking with a very helpful and reputable Miura dealer in the States (PCH Golf) and asking why the black paint fill on the PI-401 irons they were selling on ebay seemed to have chips out of it (represented as only played minimal rounds). So they can rip off people around the world?? You can post now and register later. The difference is the counterfiters use inferior materials in the molds. Look at those clubs in the photo. How very odd,,,,, ,our club Pro said that the so called fakes are just overruns churned out by the VERY same people who make these clubs for the big names like Ping Callaway Taylor made etc.They flog a few via the net at vastly lower prices Admin Name: Chen Sun I just purchased a new Titleist 909F3 3 wood from a Chinese outfit called time to shopping for $98.00 w/ free shipping included. I will be buying again from them this holiday season. Its not often you fing the fake site with a form of contact however i found a site with a chat link, and clearly the service was so poor and DAISEY, well not sure she can speak english have a look at our lovely conversation , I 00:10:30 I bought a set of Pings from TGW a few weeks ago in thier clearance section at a very nice price. He bring that iron club to me at my home. How do we not get ripped off by someone who has purchased a fake from China and then on-sells it on eBay. Tech Name: Brandgolfclubs I know many people personally that ordered from this website and didnt want to believe that their items are fake. the loft is written completely different. If they are counterfeit they usually will not like answering these. I spent time in the shop and analyzed which options were best for me The time alone with the pro was worth more than any cost savings or risk online. I think this thread has caused as much hysteria as information. I was thinking they might be involved in some sort of shill-bidding scam to get the prices up, but now I am thinking counterfeit. if they are a fake i will open a dispute on paypal once i have recived the clubs. Any real brands out there on ebay? Cobra F6 3, 4 hybrids Matrix Red Tie Stiff Pat- I agree with you about being smart when shopping for anything online ESPECIALLY if the price is too good to be true. tel: I was generally thinking that I wanted to find the best price on them, but that less than 50% of MSRP was a red flag. R9 driver or Diablo edge??? I bought a full set of R9 including woods, bags, trolley, umbrella etc worth $1,300. sale, wl Anyone seen this web site as advertising Taylor made R11 set for 689 including woods putter and bag? OK so much for describing the difference between fakes and clones. Do they have a phone number or mailing address? * 1 registrar has maintained records for this domain since 2009-09-07 Thanks again. how would you like me to send it: over this messenger or by email or by phone Let me know, send to [emailprotected] I will ask him who is reps are and ask for their contact info. They removed serial numbers from authentic watches to eliminate the tracing of the product and sold them through internet storefronts that do not have the original retailers name. Speaking of security, notice that when you go to the page that asks you to put in most of your personal information that it is NOT secure. SO Beware!!! How about this? Hope no one flags me for it. So I asked for the transaction to be cancelled and I was refunded. I live in the UK and recently purchased a used Taylormade Rescue 09 from GlobalGolf. TSG deals with all the biggest . ive just purchased a set of talormade burner 09 irons 3-sw for 361 from http://www.golfshop365.com, i wish id have found this site 2 days ago but there you go! http://www.discountgolfwholesale.com. Even if the price is nearly the same.BEWARE.buy from a pro that can fit you on a flightscope monitor or TRACKMAN and buy direct from the factory. The complete Jaffick set reminds me of Ping's G-range with a hint of TaylorMade mixed in. But there are signs that they tried to fix it they send you back to the order catalog!! Any info on this site. you cant tell me a tp driver costs 500 bucks to make but a standard tm driver will still net a profit on sale next year for 150. hi everyone, btw sorry for my bad english (im a french canadian from quebec) ive just purchase a nike sq dymo driver on the web and the driver has not aiming mark on the crown (the two little triangle ) do you think its a fake ??? Counterfeit TaylorMade SpeedBlade Serial Numbers. Callaway clubs normally have the serial numbers laser etched on and it is on one club for iron sets. Rock Bottom Golf: Copyright 2023. How do I get them to just give me back my money and they can have the clubs? US Country : us center shafted. Anybody have information on this? Ret Sporting Goods/Bicycles They have good feedback rating, but the clubs they are selling is possibly 70-80% of the MRP. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Should I go directly to the credit card com pany or to PayPal. Free shipping for many products! And again, just because a serial number doesnt check out with an American manufacturer doesnt mean its FAKE For example Mizuno (USA) only serializes their clubs when they reach the USA. We are here to help educate and empower golfers. sunny. Happy golfing . The about us citation will read something like: We sell genuine golf club to you. on my 7 iron and the serial number was for a completely diffferent set of irons. Who are these major retailers and why cant the major retailers sell the same goods at reduced prices and save on any losses? As part of my writings, I spend many $$$ buying counterfeits direct from the factory in China. can anyone advise me if his mob are legit. no risk of getting counterfeits. They make about 85% of all the counterfeit golf clubs on the market today. Since then I always do research before buying. We ran the serial number from your e-mail, and we were not able to pull up any specifications. They only sell to those that are greedy. They seem to ship all their clubs via Shenzhen because thats where they are when I track there whereabouts. KuiemQuiem did the transaction and is still pending, I purchased a set of x-24s for 318.00 on 2-25 at a website called usgolfsale.com. Now, I have seen almost a half dozen sellers (some new, some with used) listing fake MC-501s, some with obvious fake component builds, others actually put together decently. No reply yet, however dont know how much weight an affirmative answer will hold. Callaway told me my supposed FT-IZ is made out of piece of metal. The colors may be off on the shaft bands or the graphics if the club has a graphite shaft. They have some unbelievable prices on clubs (AP2s for $360) The site have some broken english on the descriptions, but their site phone number is an Chicago area code. Creation Date: 1999-04-07 would like to know if wallys discount golf sells authentic or fake clubs, As much as i am delighted that i know a bit more about fake clubs out there.. it sure is scary. As an example, Titleist and Mizuno normally use a longer ferrule, but almost all the ferrules on counterfeit irons are shorter. :). Counterfeit Mizuno MX-700 Fairway Cover.