You had better get pants with a stronger zipper if that is the case. (It's unclear if he worked there.) I responded previously, and he chose to keep my answers out, I guess MN is a Calvanist and I was profaning his sacred cow! Hes probably dirtier than Pastor Bob. The pain of church shopping is excruciating, especially since last time I was at Potential I was in tears over the horror I experienced there. Im just sick of it.Stop already, close this piece of garbage sight down and stop digging up peoples sin, and causing division in the body. Bad part is that I had to sit quiet because there is no evidence. It is surreal that the reason why I visited here over 6 years ago was because of this man and his actions against my family. Their fellowship there- and their clichs-their high class restaurant-a place to impress non-believers so they can get saved there and their position of importance was more important than standing up for the truth. 3. Its commanded in Scripture to do so. Kate Forbes: Would a Christian be permitted to lead Scotland. I know I know you would never do such a thing. God forbid he get a real job like the rest of us. Am I hearing that part of fundraising project plan involved Bob and his wife putting a price on the biblical practice ( and requirement for elders) of hospitality, charging people to have dinner or lunch with them. Instead you drew a caricature based on his post for your #54 and made anyone reading who might be 300 pounds feel even better about themselves. This will certainly be a season of emotional turmoil for CC Fort Lauderdale, as they lose their senior pastor. To critics such as Newnham, there's only one reason to fight for a ruling like that: to hide from churchgoers the amount of cash the church gave Coy to go away. CCFTL knew this could break wide open by Friday night/Saturday morning. He wasnt in any shape to give up a kidney anytime soon, so Jake was his best option. Read his account here and give me the answer: http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/John-Macarthur-and-the-Blood-of-Martin-Luther-King.html. BTW, what gauge chain do you think it would take to bind satan? "Never.". God doesnt care how much money a person has. "Typically, how it goes in these cases is you have a violator in the church, but the leaders will have this notion that if he repents, he's forgiven, and then we don't have to talk about it any more," says Leander James, who specializes in church child abuse cases. Were total screw-ups, we readily admit it, but youre a damn fool to try to get a read on Jesus Christ from any of us. The church has 10 campuses around Florida and has hosted numerous evangelical speakers, including evangelist Billy Graham, author and speaker Joni Eareckson Tada and actor Kirk Cameron. Forgive me, I was callous. We need to pray hard for this man and his family because the enemy is fighting intensely to bring the faithful down. Adultery creates a ripple effect that grows outward and touches so many lives not just the two involved and it takes two willing participants to maintain. Although the first few notes of this cacophony of criticism were low (but, perhaps on pitch), the horn blowing quickly turned discordantmaking it difficult to distinguish the original theme. Secondly the Bible will say adultery or fornication but fornication can include many types of different types of sexual sin, its not pertinent to dwell on the sin itself and bring out every lurid detail of that sin for your viewing pleasure and for you to dwell in. How is this furthering the kingdom? 3rd, there is a difference between millennialism and dispesationalism . Join the New Times community and help support Now the Lordship salvation, works righteousness folks will claim if you dont sin less after you are saved, significantly lessthen your salvation didnt take. True spirituality is to be able to live with unanswered questions, dear Lorenzo. God is forgiving, you should be too. My family loves Pastor Bob and his leadership and every week he led hundreds to our Savior. Thats all Boband I appreciate him greatly. If you believe the preterist Calvinist view Ive got a bridge in San Francisco I can sell you! Anonymous, if what you wrote is true, this is the most repulsive thing Ive read yet on this thread. Thats what I love about Calvinist preterists, and that is that they are consistent, in denying the literal aspects of scripture and have to do exegetical gymnastics and use pretzel logic to try to prove their conclusions that the Bible does not mean what it says, and says what it means, so when it says that there will be a 1000 year reign of Christ, it doesnt really mean a 1000 year reign, but its symbolic, in fact we are already in the millennium, in fact the lamb is lying with the lion, its to be taken spiritually, (I had one preterist tell me that his cat and his parakeet were getting along and played together and that that was proof for him that we were in the millennium), and Satan is chained up right now (yeah right! Recognizing we serve a God of second chances and that our hope is in Him, the statement concludes, the leadership, staff and members of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale have joined together in prayer for Pastor Bob and his family during this time of healing.. I can see this except for one very big deal. When did I ever mention Bob Coy? DIANE COY Diane was born and raised in Southern California where, as a high school senior, she gave her heart and life to Jesus as her Lord and Savior. Those so easy to forgive-and basically take him back tomorrow if they could many are already in ministry there and climbing the $ ladder there and now that he is gone they are able to cut a bigger slice of the pie for themselves. That was followed by more worship. David, Jerry Falwell despised Bakker because of his theology and his lifestyle. Their lawsuit was dismissed this past July. You declined. May we be in prayer for him, lest we be found with that same measurement being measured back unto us. My parents are Catholic believers. Chuck Smith didnt like sharing power with the congregation which is why he started his own brand of doing church, his own denomination in essence, that consolidated the Power into the role of the Senior Pastor. Stop being so vindictive and pray for a Christian brother, his wife and children. When a mocker comes along it is real important for him to be smart and accurate with his mocking. Most of those folks may stop sinning in some areas, but then the sin of pride and self-righteousness (which the bible says god hates) seems to dog this Group post-saved. They are being good guardians and deserve no finger pointingjust applause for being brave and having the character to do such a thing. But, if he is restored he will be like Jacob who limped for the rest of his life after he finally won Gods blessing over his life. As churchgoers held their hands up in ecstasy, Sauder read from Matthew and promised that Jesus was ready to heal. Ill be praying for him, Diane and his kids as well as for the impact this will have on CC of Ftl. The one who hung on a cross continues to be foolishness to the Greeks and a scandal to the Jews. Scumbag needs a good beating for destroying the lives of so many. and they wonder why we need blogs, Blessings and sleep well big brotherlove you. Problem is it turns into pride and a business instead of a ministry. Please. list . Bob, in my opinion, respects people that challenge him because hes a competitive type of guy but bring your A game. I will leave you alone to work on the Acts 2 passage it destroys the future 1,000 yr earthy reign. Lots of pain and fallout behind the scenes, Im sure. Who made you Coys torpedo? Our relationships with Jesus need to matter more than getting up in front of a crowd does. So even though they have campus pastors, no one was felt to equal BC. He did his best to always have accountability around him but I think its the pride more than the desire that got him. No, my answer is well beyond convenient, it is crafted after years of thought, consideration and observation. He was forced to resign. 32 This Jesus God raised up, and of that we all are witnesses. It was supposed to be raised for a new sanctuary that was to be at the North-East part of the property near the canal and would take up part of the main front parking lot. I trip on all you. And then you want me to take the 1,000 yrs as literal when there has been nothing literal in the chapter? Or your own wife and children if you have any. We arent saved by our actions, we arent saved by our morality, we arent saved by our correct doctrine. The Charisma article makes it sound like Coy will be back soon.A little rest, a little prayer, some CCFL counseling, a tweak here and a tweak there, problem all gone. Steve Wright, your comment number 478 was pure gold. Yes or no. A poor man has the few options left to him when she leaves him with his shame. Jesus loves him and his family very much. Look at any end times prophecy books on the shelf today all written by dispies. They pop up on our husbands e-mail, Facebook, etc. I am pointing out the fact that giving flawed man too much power and authority is corrupting in both politics and religionno matter how specially anointed they claim they are or how endorsed they are by Chuck Smith etc. Share the power. Andy, And so if you cant read shall reign with him 1000 years as shall reign with him 1000 years, that is your personal issue. Hey, just show me the verse and the reference that it is an earthly rule I will change my position. Can you please point me to the confession of these women? On a Sunday evening in April 2014, thousands packed into Calvary Chapel's sanctuary, a cavernous space that looks more like a midsize city's convention center than a church. So do we go to punishment or restoration? BD, the content of what Im stating cannot be denied, I have dialogued many Cavinists and when push comes to shove these are the things they believe, why are they embarrassed by these teachings, or try to deny them. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Messiah! or, There he is! do not believe it. We do not know if he has repented and maybe his unrepentance (if it is) is why he did not stand before the congregation. If he is not happy with the wife, divorce her first and then if you want to go spread your seed, go ahead. I have to agree. I am sorry for sounding so bitter. He is a human that, if I may point out, has transformed MANY MANY MANY lives over several years and has grown CCFL into an amazing place of worship. I remember him saying many times, do not put your faith in man because man will let you down including me, put your faith in God. He is human, I will be praying for him and his family. I think they need to clean house in order to restore confidence. Nearly 18 years on and there is still so much for the Lord to heal. We all fall short of the Kingdom and I was just feeling very deeply convicted this morning about how I fail God. But since the binding of Satan, the word has gone all over the word. The problems you have had our probably gossip and busy bodying. Phoenix Preacher 2023. Embrace him. My heart goes out to his wife and kids. In a lawsuit, a woman named Lori Pollitt said after she had moved from Texas to Idaho to work for Kestler, he repeatedly demanded she divorce her husband, give up her children to adoption, and marry him. For the gates of hell will not prevail against my church, thus saith The Lord! It went for far less than the first. Afterwards BC was the poster boy for raising money and he spoke for Crown Financial on how to get the church to give. They had plenty of time to tell their people and they already had prepared for their family meeting. In fact, the church had been battling accusations nationwide for years that it empowered predatory pastors while demanding little accountability. I loved the book and I want yall to pop over, read the review and see reasons why I think you would like it too. Amen to #639, especially your last paragraph, Ps40. It reminds me of an overnight star. there has been NO confirmation of what the moral failure is. That is how it is then noted in the employees record. Lets see how many marriages this man has destroyed in his church. 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He quit the cocaine and strippers, met his wife, and moved to South Florida to preach. If you believe that the posting of any material infringes your copyright, be sure to contact us through the contact form and your material will be removed! It was not readily available. Pastor Bob had suddenly resigned, the assistant pastor told the stunned crowd. Mary, Of course I believe in the return of Jesus I dont believe in a rapture beforehand and I do not believe in a 1,000 yr earthly reign afterwards. He confessed. I completely agree with you that if it had been done to my loved onesI would have kicked his sorry can up around his shoulder blades and repented later. Just as Peter recovered after his denial of Christ. Might I ask, other than providing a platform for the information about what has happened with Bob Coy to be disseminated, what are you hoping will be accomplished (as a minister of the gospel yourself) will be accomplished by publishing this information? Police later spoke with the victim in September 2015, but she said she was not sure whether she wanted to go through with a criminal investigation or testify. Was awake a lot last night both praying and reliving my own similar, tho much smaller scale experience. Even through my anger and hurt, I know that it is just a sin, and that they are no worse than me when I lie or steal. Michael, We don;t argue we chat from different view points. The perpetrator must be removed form the pedestal men have placed him on in order to allow restoration to begin. I figure that is why you are now circling your wagon around Coy. You are a liar and you need to repent. I actually have a lot of experience in having to deal with unwanted attention from married men both at work and at church. Ok Michael, let me get through the weekend. And may your little friends who warm themselves in the fires of scoffing and mockery take heed as well! I am curious about when men have this happen to them (especially if theyre caught as opposed to confessing) if there are other issues that need to be looked at? He boasted of a vast media reach. 1 And there shall come forth a shoot out of the stock of Jesse, and a twig shall grow forth out of his roots. finding out our churches and pastors had failings and unrepentant sin. , ; , . Twitter Do you realize that you rightly distinguished Bob Coy as a mere man from Jesus Christ the head of His Church and in the next sentence wrongly ascribed to Bob the works and fruit of Jesus Christ? She may be one to something. Sharon Leone (Diane Farr) is Vince's wife and the Chief of Division 1501 on the CBS original drama, Fire Country. Did Jesus only die for Christians? Thats getting copied and pasted and saved to be used a lot in the future , Gomer MLD, I would love to meet you someday, as you are the only man I have heard of who does not struggle with this in some way.. It boggles my mindboggles itthat you want to haggle over the terms of removal of someone who we now know had at least two affairs and a porn problem. No one is perfect, thats why we are just human flesh. Yes, I had to come clean and it was a struggle. Id think the body of Christ would be the most transparent of all bloggers! I know God is not surprised by all this but we all need to get a grip! So, what about babylons Dread is his theology from Homer Simpson? I also know 2 large donors retracted their pledges. This was the zenith of Jakes career. #470 IMO the way the women looked going to that church was a big problem that no one addressed. Didnt God provide for this with the whole concubine thing. May todays revelations be just one more step in your growth as a person of faith. What does that tell you? Michael, come on now. It probably didnt help that Doug Oldham had defected and gone from the Old Time Gospel Hour to Jimmys show. Bob Coy had a long run. Repentance is a change of mind, or a conversion from sin to God. If you are blessed, you may find one to lay your weary self at for a while. As his star rose and his congregation grew into the tens of thousands, the Sun Sentinel solicited weekly faith columns written by Coy. MLD In your desire to make the scriptures fit with your predisposed interpretation, youre assigning a secondary meaning that the text does not warrant, the text is giving us a period of time not a symbolic application as you are trying to assert. The story has hit the local news in Fort Lauderdale now http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-calvary-chapel-resignation-20140406,0,5071679.story. Lets give him room to breathe and an opportunity to make things right with God, then his family before we are so quick to cast stones. And somewhere along the line, Coy slipped right back into his old life.
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